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You say parikshanam. It means viewing something constantly to ascertain for yourself, not verify, to ascertain for yourself. Whether what you see or hear is true or not. The word verifiability is another form of veracity, it comes from Latin roots. Now in Indian philosophy since the time of systematization of vedanta, we have come to accept 'prathyaksha,' that is physical verifiability and then inference anumana and then shabda pramana, that is a Vedic text.

Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers sabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma, you can't question what is use of dogma what is the use of anumana? I will simply end this. The vedic text are also a form of Pratyaksha, but of higher sober physical verifiability. Music for example music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. if it is good music if it appeals to you you delight on the bliss that you get out of it, you simply not very verifiable. Your experience has to be tallied with experience only. Not textbook of logic and this and that. and therefore prathyaksha if the speciality of into thought sanatan Dharma is that we are ideal to the basic Vedic text is it infallible, unquestionable they can only be understood they can only be rationalized they can only be tallied with other ones, but you cannot throw away, you cannot throw them away. Show that is the distinction of sanatan Dharma, the vedic text.

So denying the Vedas is supposed to be one of the seven great sins, sapta patakas, Veda dushanam. if you don't agree you have to prove that some other experience is superior.

Experience to experience not word for word, and therefore logic is subsidiary to experience. Shabda pramana any other kind of pramana if it is experience, experience is non questionable. Even you have, even whitehead Western philosophers says, to deny experience there is nothing nothing nothing. Experience is data. philosophy is starts withthe data, assembly of data even physical science scholars may say, your physical science, where do you verify an experiment in the laboratory you assemble the data put a hypothesis put it in experiment and that you have it if you question the data nothing will come out.

Off you play test match in some state, you can't question why there should be a player, there will be a player. If you want to enjoy, if you don't want don't enjoy don't go to the green room and examine whether this boy acted in this way and that way, data is not to be question, arrangement can be questioned.

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 Verifiability (Samskrit : परीक्षणम्) means that anyone studying an article can personally check that the information presented there is coming from a reliable source. Dharmawiki accepts and references published works, original research is not within the scope of Dharmawiki. Content presented on this site refers to concepts that have been previously published and discussed in scholarly circles rather than the personal beliefs or experiences which have not been validated. Here we discuss "verifiability" in two contexts. One is with respect to the textual references or citations given to original sources on the site and the other is consideration of Vedas as the primary pramanas for the mankind.
-Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattva shastras has been referred to extensively in discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras we have come to accept 'Prathyaksha (Perception)' which is physical verifiability and then Anumana (Inference) followed by Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. Thus Vedas are our Pramanas for the present concepts. This shows our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which evolved the whole shastra itself.
+Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattva shastras has been referred to extensively in the discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras, we have come to accept  the three kinds of Pramanas viz., 'Prathyaksha (Perception) Pramana' which is physical verifiability, Anumana (Inference) Pramana which is indirect reference and Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. Thus Vedas are our Pramanas for all Sanatana Dharma concepts. The systematization of Pramanas (described in the Nyaya shastra) shows that our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which the whole shastra itself evolved.
-Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability.
+Now, from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes a dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, of higher sober physical verifiability. The followers of this ancient tradition do not consider the Vedas as "written texts" but as knowledge (jnana) "revealed" by rshis  who visualized and experienced it in higher conscious state of existence; thus Vedas are [[Apaurusheya (अपौरुषेयम्)|Apaurusheya]].
 This is explained taking music for example. Music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. Good music is delightful and the bliss that one gets out of it cannot be verified. It is an experience. Experience has to be tallied with experience only, not a textbook of logic or any other action.<ref>Personal Communication of Dr. K. S. Narayanacharya</ref> In Kathopanishad, Yama instructs Nachiketa that even the words are limited when it comes to experience.
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 Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattva shastras has been referred to extensively in discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras we have come to accept 'Prathyaksha (Perception)' which is physical verifiability and then Anumana (Inference) followed by Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. Thus Vedas are our Pramanas for the present concepts. This shows our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which evolved the whole shastra itself.
-Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability. It is not the property of the Rshis, the are the mantradrashtas to whom the Vedas were revealed. One can explain/describe about sweetness of sugarcane, but the experience is person. Similarly Vedas describe about the various aspects of Brahman, and it is up to every individual to seek that experience to be revealed to him. Abrahmic concepts rest on belief, whereas the Vedic paths rest on experience. The mantras stood the test of time and experience of sadhakas and are not just a belief system. So essentially they are not an imposition of the persons mind but can be personally verified.
+Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability.
 This is explained taking music for example. Music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. Good music is delightful and the bliss that one gets out of it cannot be verified. It is an experience. Experience has to be tallied with experience only, not a textbook of logic or any other action.<ref>Personal Communication of Dr. K. S. Narayanacharya</ref> In Kathopanishad, Yama instructs Nachiketa that even the words are limited when it comes to experience.
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-Verifiability (Samskrit : परीक्षणम्) means that anyone studying an article can personally check that the information presented there is coming from a reliable source. Dharmawiki accepts and references published works, original research is not within the scope of Dharmawiki. Content presented on this site refers to concepts that have been previously published and discussed in scholarly circles rather than the personal beliefs or experiences which have not been validated.
+Verifiability (Samskrit : परीक्षणम्) means that anyone studying an article can personally check that the information presented there is coming from a reliable source. Dharmawiki accepts and references published works, original research is not within the scope of Dharmawiki. Content presented on this site refers to concepts that have been previously published and discussed in scholarly circles rather than the personal beliefs or experiences which have not been validated. Here we discuss "verifiability" in two contexts. One is with respect to the textual references or citations given to original sources on the site and the other is consideration of Vedas as the primary pramanas for the mankind.
-Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattvas shastras has been referred to extensively in discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras we have come to accept 'Prathyaksha (Perception)' which is physical verifiability and then Anumana (Inference) followed by Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. This shows our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which evolved the whole shastra itself.
+Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattva shastras has been referred to extensively in discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras we have come to accept 'Prathyaksha (Perception)' which is physical verifiability and then Anumana (Inference) followed by Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. Thus Vedas are our Pramanas for the present concepts. This shows our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which evolved the whole shastra itself.
-Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are also a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability.
+Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are a form of Pratyaksha Pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability. It is not the property of the Rshis, the are the mantradrashtas to whom the Vedas were revealed. One can explain/describe about sweetness of sugarcane, but the experience is person. Similarly Vedas describe about the various aspects of Brahman, and it is up to every individual to seek that experience to be revealed to him. Abrahmic concepts rest on belief, whereas the Vedic paths rest on experience. The mantras stood the test of time and experience of sadhakas and are not just a belief system. So essentially they are not an imposition of the persons mind but can be personally verified.
-This is explained taking music for example. Music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. Good music is delightful and the bliss that one gets out of it cannot be verified. It is an experience. Experience has to be tallied with experience only, not a textbook of logic or any other action.<ref>Personal Communication of Dr. K. S. Narayanacharya</ref>
+This is explained taking music for example. Music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. Good music is delightful and the bliss that one gets out of it cannot be verified. It is an experience. Experience has to be tallied with experience only, not a textbook of logic or any other action.<ref>Personal Communication of Dr. K. S. Narayanacharya</ref> In Kathopanishad, Yama instructs Nachiketa that even the words are limited when it comes to experience.
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-You say parikshanam. It means viewing something constantly to ascertain for yourself, not verify, to ascertain for yourself. Whether what you see or hear is true or not. The word verifiability is another form of veracity, it comes from Latin roots.  Now in Indian philosophy since the time of systematization of vedanta, we have come to accept 'prathyaksha,' that is physical verifiability and then inference anumana and then shabda pramana, that is a Vedic text.
+Verifiability (Samskrit : परीक्षणम्) means that anyone studying an article can personally check that the information present there comes from a reliable source. Dharmawiki accepts published works, original research is out of scope of Dharmawiki. Content presented on this site refers to concepts that have been previously published and discussed in scholarly circles rather than the personal beliefs or experiences.
-Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers sabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma, you can't question what is use of dogma what is the use of anumana? I will simply end this. The vedic text are also a form of Pratyaksha,  but of higher sober physical verifiability. Music for example music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. if it is good music if it appeals to you you delight on the bliss that you get out of it, you simply not very verifiable. Your experience has to be tallied with experience only. Not textbook of logic and this and that. and therefore prathyaksha if the speciality of into thought sanatan Dharma is that we are ideal to the basic Vedic text is it infallible, unquestionable they can only be understood they can only be rationalized they can only be tallied with other ones, but you cannot throw away, you cannot throw them away. Show that is the distinction of sanatan Dharma, the vedic text.
+Now this aspect of Verifiability (परीक्षणम्) in Bharatiya tattvas shastras has been referred to extensively in discussions about [[Pramana (प्रमाणम्)|Pramanas]]. Since the time of systematization of various darshana shastras we have come to accept 'Prathyaksha (Perception)' which is physical verifiability and then Anumana (Inference) followed by Shabda Pramana, which is a Vedic text. This shows our ancients were not blindly accepting any point of view, but they were discussed and debated extensively among scholars of those days, from which evolved the whole shastra itself.
-So denying the Vedas is supposed to be one of the seven great sins, sapta patakas, Veda dushanam. if you don't agree you have to prove that some other experience is superior.
+Now from the point of view of the Western philosophers Shabda pramana is discounted, if it is textual kind of teaching then it becomes dogma. However, in Sanatana Dharma the vedic texts are also a form of Pratyaksha pramana, but of higher sober physical verifiability.
-Experience to experience not word for word, and therefore logic is subsidiary to experience.  Shabda pramana any other kind of pramana if it is experience, experience is non questionable.  Even you have, even whitehead Western philosophers says, to deny experience there is nothing nothing nothing. Experience is data.  philosophy is starts withthe data, assembly of data even physical science scholars may say, your physical science, where do you verify an experiment in the laboratory you assemble the data put a hypothesis put it in experiment and that you have it if you question the data nothing will come out.
+This is explained taking music for example. Music is not verifiable in terms of your physical ears. Good music is delightful and the bliss that one gets out of it cannot be verified. It is an experience. Experience has to be tallied with experience only, not a textbook of logic or any other action.